31 January Organizers Meeting

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2011-01-31 14:41:55 [Login] dearmyrtle
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2011-01-31 15:59:27 [Login] GeneJ
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2011-01-31 15:59:45 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: Hello everyone!
2011-01-31 15:59:51 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: looks like it's about that time.
2011-01-31 16:00:04 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: Here's what Tamura and I have been doing this past little while....
2011-01-31 16:00:11 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: Hi Myrt. Sorry to hear you aren't feeling well.
2011-01-31 16:00:13 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: 1. Added ourselves to our Skype Contacts....
2011-01-31 16:00:14 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: Yep.. Feeling better?
2011-01-31 16:00:26 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: 2. Worked with Google Wave...
2011-01-31 16:00:47 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: and we're ready to do a test of the SKYPE I don't have Andy's skype name...
2011-01-31 16:01:03 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: can you give it to me, then I will add you to my contacts.
2011-01-31 16:01:06 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 16:01:07 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 16:01:10 [Login] TamuraJones
2011-01-31 16:01:10 [IP] TamuraJones: 83.163.6.84
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2011-01-31 16:01:22 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: I don't Have a Skype name that I know of!
2011-01-31 16:01:25 [Login] ttwetmore
2011-01-31 16:01:25 [IP] ttwetmore: 70.19.135.34
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2011-01-31 16:01:31 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: hello Tom...
2011-01-31 16:01:37 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: Just use agh3rd :)
2011-01-31 16:01:45 [Message] ttwetmore -> Organizers Meeting: hi
2011-01-31 16:02:00 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: we're going to go over to SKYPE and test out that interface for a voice chat that can handle about 200+ attendees at no cost.
2011-01-31 16:02:11 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: tom do you have a skype account?
2011-01-31 16:02:17 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: My name there is DearMYRTLE
2011-01-31 16:02:34 [Message] ttwetmore -> Organizers Meeting: I may; I'll have to go through some stuff to remember
2011-01-31 16:02:45 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: agh3rd is not a skype name
2011-01-31 16:02:49 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: sorry Andy
2011-01-31 16:03:14 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: Tamura and I have been experimenting, and I find Google Wave like that program you showed me GeneJ... where we could edit in real time.
2011-01-31 16:03:22 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: and see what the other one was typing.
2011-01-31 16:03:30 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: and still follow it over time.
2011-01-31 16:03:39 [Message] ttwetmore -> Organizers Meeting: looks like i do
2011-01-31 16:03:40 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: kk
2011-01-31 16:03:47 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: ok- just assign me one :) I don't even know how Skype works :)
2011-01-31 16:03:50 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: GeneJ what was that program.
2011-01-31 16:04:02 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: you have to download skype and register Andy.
2011-01-31 16:04:05 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 16:04:05 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
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2011-01-31 16:04:19 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: skype is free voice for multiple individuals
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2011-01-31 16:04:26 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: Andy a busy boy!!
2011-01-31 16:04:41 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: I see you already have your other computer working.
2011-01-31 16:04:41 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: and then video for one-to-one.
2011-01-31 16:04:50 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: We actually started on time.
2011-01-31 16:05:00 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: There is an Andy Hatchett in Skype. Evil twin?
2011-01-31 16:05:09 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: the purpose of this organizers meeting is to attempt to use SKPE
2011-01-31 16:05:13 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: SKYPE
2011-01-31 16:05:25 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: Yes- unfortunately at the earlier meeting the video recorded great but no audio for some reason :(
2011-01-31 16:05:26 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: and then Google Wave to see if that free space would be useful for our purposes.
2011-01-31 16:05:35 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: lol
2011-01-31 16:05:40 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: good... I got a little teary-eyed there.
2011-01-31 16:06:05 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: andy are you in th eUK?
2011-01-31 16:06:12 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 16:06:12 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 16:06:29 [Disconnect] Now_Recording
2011-01-31 16:06:30 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: or someone with the exact same name out of 789 million people on Skype.
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2011-01-31 16:07:00 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: ok so Tom, did you find your skype account name?
2011-01-31 16:07:02 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 16:07:02 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 16:07:27 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: I do like the idea of getting more done during our developers meetings -- voting on what is discussed and announced as voting for the next monday.
2011-01-31 16:07:28 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: agh3rd still not showing up when I search skype.
2011-01-31 16:07:46 [Message] ttwetmore -> Organizers Meeting: ttwetmore
2011-01-31 16:08:17 [Message] Andy_Hatchett -> Organizers Meeting: Am I supposed to do something- call a number or something?
2011-01-31 16:08:18 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: I've scheduled a developers meeting for Monday the 7th since the 14this Valentine's day.
2011-01-31 16:08:19 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: OK....
2011-01-31 16:08:23 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: www.skype.com
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2011-01-31 16:08:29 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: then download the program for your platform
2011-01-31 16:08:39 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I found you, Tom; Tamura found me.
2011-01-31 16:08:41 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: then follow the screen prompts during the install to sigh up.
2011-01-31 16:08:50 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: sigh=sign up.
2011-01-31 16:08:54 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: sorry...
2011-01-31 16:08:56 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: <<is Marissab on Skype
2011-01-31 16:09:04 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: tom I just sent you a request to add me to your contact list.
2011-01-31 16:09:07 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I am marissab on skype
2011-01-31 16:09:12 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: And once we get andy there,
2011-01-31 16:09:15 [IP] louiskessler: 207.161.215.99
2011-01-31 16:09:15 [Login] louiskessler
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2011-01-31 16:09:53 [Message] ttwetmore -> Organizers Meeting: (I have never used Skype, but it looks like I've just added three contacts)
2011-01-31 16:10:10 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: Hello Louis -- we're going to experiment on Skype.
2011-01-31 16:10:14 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: (WELCOME home from work!)
2011-01-31 16:10:16 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: ;)
2011-01-31 16:10:36 [Message] louiskessler -> Organizers Meeting: I've never used Skype either. I'll have to ask my daughter how to use it. :-)
2011-01-31 16:11:03 [Message] louiskessler -> Organizers Meeting: Are you using it now for this meeting?
2011-01-31 16:11:20 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: I ahve Tamura, GeneJ, Russ and Tom in a group in my contact group
2011-01-31 16:11:26 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: yes louis -- do you have skype...
2011-01-31 16:11:46 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: our agenda calls for experimenting with skype for larger than 16 attendees ....
2011-01-31 16:11:52 [Disconnect [ERR]] Andy_Hatchett
2011-01-31 16:11:54 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: and to use the Wiki as a place to write.
2011-01-31 16:11:54 [Message] louiskessler -> Organizers Meeting: No. I don't have it yet. I can go to install it now.
2011-01-31 16:11:56 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: ok- Firefox crashed :(
2011-01-31 16:12:00 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: oh dear.
2011-01-31 16:12:13 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: that was my problem with Second Life last night. Some days are just like that.
2011-01-31 16:12:22 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: our goal is to find a cheaper alternative (free)
2011-01-31 16:12:41 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: rather than up my attendance to 100 max for another 50 bucjs per month.
2011-01-31 16:13:00 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: I jsut spoke with tom via skype...
2011-01-31 16:13:06 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: so he has it working just fine.
2011-01-31 16:13:11 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: didn't take long, did it?
2011-01-31 16:13:28 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: Louis -- did you see our meeting notes from this morning's Developers Meeting?
2011-01-31 16:13:51 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: we decided to do all voting on the wiki, so it isn't dependent on anyone's private survey monkey account -- or their schedule.
2011-01-31 16:14:00 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: we also agreed on the internationalization goal.
2011-01-31 16:14:33 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: we also agreed to have Mon by 5pm posting of proposed goals... (or other items to vote on)
2011-01-31 16:14:42 [Message] louiskessler -> Organizers Meeting: I missed the voting item (thought you were going to do it at the developers meeting).
2011-01-31 16:14:54 [Message] louiskessler -> Organizers Meeting: I saw the internationaliation goal accepted.
2011-01-31 16:14:55 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: with a link to that proposal page BACK ON THE AGENDA item.
2011-01-31 16:14:58 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: good.
2011-01-31 16:15:08 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: so you are fairly up to speed.
2011-01-31 16:15:25 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: We are attempting to make it possible for things NOT to come to a grinding halt when I am traveling.
2011-01-31 16:15:38 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: I do so love to moderate --- slice through to the meat of things
2011-01-31 16:15:40 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: and such
2011-01-31 16:15:47 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: and see votes done in real time.
2011-01-31 16:15:58 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: unfortunately few can attend developers meetings
2011-01-31 16:16:29 [Login] dearmyrtle
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2011-01-31 16:16:48 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: any more skype names to add? Louis -- Andy?
2011-01-31 16:16:57 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 16:16:57 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 16:16:58 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 16:17:10 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: ok- just added agh3rd to skype.
2011-01-31 16:17:10 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: GeneJ what was that website/program you showed me a while back
2011-01-31 16:17:12 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: ?
2011-01-31 16:17:16 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: kk andy
2011-01-31 16:17:23 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: now Louis... do you have your skype name?
2011-01-31 16:17:30 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I'll pull it up .. believe it's typewith.me
2011-01-31 16:17:51 [Message] louiskessler -> Organizers Meeting: ... still installing
2011-01-31 16:17:55 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: ok
2011-01-31 16:17:57 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: no problem
2011-01-31 16:18:14 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: Andy -- I just sent you a request to let me add you to my contact list on Skype.
2011-01-31 16:18:20 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: yes. http://typewith.me
2011-01-31 16:18:33 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: and the limit on Typewith.me is HOW many at a time?
2011-01-31 16:18:50 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: we are thinking Google Wave can handle a larger group viewing a page at once.
2011-01-31 16:19:02 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: ok- see you and Tamura
2011-01-31 16:19:03 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: but I could be wrong.... wasn't it something like 25 total? GeneJ?
2011-01-31 16:19:12 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I don't know. You mentioned 25 earlier today
2011-01-31 16:19:52 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: That numer sticks in my mind, yet their website isn't forthcoming ...let me look deeper.
2011-01-31 16:19:59 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: Now what? do I click caL? VIDEO CALL??
2011-01-31 16:20:06 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: Andy -- wait
2011-01-31 16:20:28 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: Ok- i'm god at that :) har!
2011-01-31 16:20:37 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: I am waiting for lewis.
2011-01-31 16:20:37 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: err--- good!
2011-01-31 16:20:45 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: LOL
2011-01-31 16:20:47 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: Louis.
2011-01-31 16:21:01 [Message] louiskessler -> Organizers Meeting: Arrrgh. I hate it when both lkessler and louiskessler are taken. But my Skype name is: louis.kessler
2011-01-31 16:21:44 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: okie dokey
2011-01-31 16:22:28 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: ok, as soon as you can accept me as a contact, I'll add you to the list.
2011-01-31 16:22:37 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: so we can practice the audio portion....
2011-01-31 16:22:47 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: when all else fails come back to this room... OK everyone?
2011-01-31 16:23:30 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: ok, I see RUSS and LOUIS are not online with Skype... I don't think Russ is here anyway.
2011-01-31 16:23:32 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: 3rd party reports limit on Typewith.me is 15 persons.
2011-01-31 16:23:46 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: ok --- so that puts it out of the running....
2011-01-31 16:23:55 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: thanks, Genej you found that very quickly.
2011-01-31 16:23:58 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: I appreciate it.
2011-01-31 16:24:08 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: http://www.nabt.org/blog/2010/07/31/type-with-me/
2011-01-31 16:24:25 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: louis --- please accept my CONTACT invitation over on SKYPE... then await my call....
2011-01-31 16:24:42 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: I'll have all of you on the call at once... so no darth vader breathing. LOL.
2011-01-31 16:25:24 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: can you see where to accept my contact, Louis? (In Skype?)
2011-01-31 16:25:50 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: GeneJ I wonder why your little icon is red, and the rest of us are blue?
2011-01-31 16:26:03 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: donno
2011-01-31 16:26:06 [Message] louiskessler -> Organizers Meeting: Tom tried calling me. I heard him, but I saw my mike wasn't yet connected.
2011-01-31 16:26:16 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: kk
2011-01-31 16:26:17 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: No video without webcam right?
2011-01-31 16:26:30 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: no video on group calls.
2011-01-31 16:26:45 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: to my knowledge --- its limited to one on one skype calls.
2011-01-31 16:26:47 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: are we ready?
2011-01-31 16:26:55 [Message] ttwetmore -> Organizers Meeting: yes, I tried to call Louis, heard nothing, so hung up.
2011-01-31 16:26:59 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: I guess!
2011-01-31 16:27:00 [Message] ttwetmore -> Organizers Meeting: ready, i think
2011-01-31 16:28:20 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: ok need tamura and andy
2011-01-31 16:28:56 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: come on over to skype...
2011-01-31 16:29:26 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: I am on Skype already...
2011-01-31 16:29:40 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: i haveinitiated a call..
2011-01-31 16:29:55 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: I see Tamura and Myrtle- I'm there aren't I?
2011-01-31 16:30:08 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: Skype is not responding... LOL ...let's retry
2011-01-31 16:30:37 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: I see Tom with a little phone headset :)
2011-01-31 16:31:02 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: I am there now
2011-01-31 16:32:32 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: Skype "not responding again"...
2011-01-31 16:34:09 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: Welll- there was something therte for 30 seconds anyway!
2011-01-31 16:35:06 [Message] ttwetmore -> Organizers Meeting: got dumped
2011-01-31 16:38:24 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: Dumped by Skype- again.
2011-01-31 16:39:28 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: kk
2011-01-31 16:39:54 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: ok= back in room.
2011-01-31 16:40:02 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: wow -- that was a bit disconcerting wasn't it?
2011-01-31 16:40:06 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: Yes.
2011-01-31 16:40:18 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: It makes my goToMeeting.com interface sound OK after all...
2011-01-31 16:40:25 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: I filled in the Skype feedback form
2011-01-31 16:40:39 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: tyty Tamura
2011-01-31 16:40:45 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: good for you -- it isn't good for conference calls...
2011-01-31 16:40:55 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: there are telephone conference call capabilitites...
2011-01-31 16:40:59 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: with other services
2011-01-31 16:41:06 [Message] louiskessler -> Organizers Meeting: Do you think anyone at Skype will read the feedback form?
2011-01-31 16:41:07 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: I've participated in large voice chats
2011-01-31 16:41:18 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: involving placing a long distnace call.
2011-01-31 16:41:25 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: It is multiple choice.... adds to their statistics.
2011-01-31 16:41:49 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: I don't know Louis --- today FamilySearch sent me a deluge of emails from my feedback about their website problems in my blog post Sunday. So GO FOGURE.
2011-01-31 16:41:52 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: FIGURE.
2011-01-31 16:41:57 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: so what shall we do?
2011-01-31 16:42:30 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: If we go forward with the GoToMeeting larger meeting on my account, I'd trust several of you with logging in in my place if I were not able to attend.
2011-01-31 16:42:40 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: The experiment was a success. We have a definite result; Skype is not good enough.
2011-01-31 16:42:43 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: I just want this group to go forward with decision making even on days when I cannot attend.
2011-01-31 16:42:46 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: Good point&gt;
2011-01-31 16:43:03 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: thanks for participating in that tes.t
2011-01-31 16:43:05 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: Like I said- I'll kick in $25/ mo if some other can pick up the rest and we go to the 100 person meeting toom level.'
2011-01-31 16:43:22 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: ok, Andy, I'd give you my Login info then...
2011-01-31 16:43:54 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: shall we consider that as an option?
2011-01-31 16:43:59 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 16:43:59 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 16:44:02 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: err-- I'm not sure that I'm the "run-a meeting" type- if you know what I mean :)
2011-01-31 16:44:12 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: not enjoying moderating?
2011-01-31 16:44:22 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: you don't have to moderate -- just open the doors for people so to speak.
2011-01-31 16:44:30 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: Does anyone have a paypal merchant account?
2011-01-31 16:44:35 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: I don't.
2011-01-31 16:44:57 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: I could set up a Google Checkout.
2011-01-31 16:45:01 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: (I hate paypal.)
2011-01-31 16:45:02 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: I'll send Myrt the money direct- I won't use PayPal at all.
2011-01-31 16:45:07 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: kk
2011-01-31 16:45:20 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: are we agreed to go forward with the larger room?
2011-01-31 16:45:35 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: I will up my membership then....
2011-01-31 16:45:37 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: The larger room makes sense to me.
2011-01-31 16:46:12 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: and andy do you agree to open the doors ???? Sounds like we need another impartial observer to moderate.
2011-01-31 16:46:23 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: (my college debate team stuff is kicking in here!)
2011-01-31 16:46:33 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: it is hard for me to moderate -- as I am so opinionated.
2011-01-31 16:46:36 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: ok- I'll open the doors ;)
2011-01-31 16:46:36 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: LOL
2011-01-31 16:46:41 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: thakns, Andy.
2011-01-31 16:46:51 [Message] louiskessler -> Organizers Meeting: We're all opinionated.
2011-01-31 16:46:54 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: I'll send you wikispaces email with my contact info
2011-01-31 16:47:05 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: we need another 25$ us monthly... that is a lot of money.
2011-01-31 16:47:15 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: afk
2011-01-31 16:47:18 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: LOL!! *You* are opinionated??? Have you ever read my Ancestry posts??? !!!!
2011-01-31 16:47:25 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: I think the pay pal or google cart to take up the slack might help.
2011-01-31 16:47:35 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: hehehehee.... I know! LOL.
2011-01-31 16:47:42 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: you should read Tamura's letter to Tim.
2011-01-31 16:47:47 [Message] louiskessler -> Organizers Meeting: To be honest, we shouldn't be putting in our own funds. We need a sponsor ... but still need to remain independent.
2011-01-31 16:48:01 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: yes, you should see Tamura's letter.
2011-01-31 16:48:06 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: to tim.
2011-01-31 16:48:18 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 16:48:19 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 16:48:19 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 16:48:19 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 16:54:40 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: OK -- so should we ask OpenGen to host our meetings?
2011-01-31 16:54:47 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: Vote you ALL....
2011-01-31 16:54:48 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 16:54:48 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 16:55:02 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: this is the organizers meeting... we don't need full bg wiki approval.
2011-01-31 16:55:04 [Message] louiskessler -> Organizers Meeting: Yes.
2011-01-31 16:55:12 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I vote that "I can live with it" if BG takes OpenGen up on generous offer.
2011-01-31 16:55:24 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: &lt;--- can live with anything... except Skype ;)
2011-01-31 16:55:30 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: good point.
2011-01-31 16:55:30 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: LOL
2011-01-31 16:55:32 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: If you hadn't noticed yet, I never vote :-)
2011-01-31 16:55:50 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: you are opinionated AND non-voting -- wow, what a combination.
2011-01-31 16:56:18 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: I am NOW SEEING that we should ask OPENGEN if they are still willing to host our BG Developers meetings.
2011-01-31 16:56:21 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 16:56:21 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 16:56:22 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 16:56:22 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 16:56:27 [Message] ttwetmore -> Organizers Meeting: can live with it unless it becomes clear we shouldn't
2011-01-31 16:56:28 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: BEGIN log again.
2011-01-31 16:56:34 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: No need to vote, is there? After all, my arguments sway you all ;-)
2011-01-31 16:56:46 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: )
2011-01-31 16:56:53 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: This is the first time I have ever edited the log except to remove private comments betwene people (BTW I can see them all!)
2011-01-31 16:57:13 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: (in the log!)
2011-01-31 16:57:15 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: ok
2011-01-31 16:57:19 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: nuff said on that.
2011-01-31 16:57:25 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: then we can go forth with the various
2011-01-31 16:57:25 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: Edit all you want- I've got the recording ;)
2011-01-31 16:57:32 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: Agenda items
2011-01-31 16:57:34 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: LOL
2011-01-31 16:57:47 [Message] louiskessler -> Organizers Meeting: I have to leave in 5 minutes
2011-01-31 16:57:50 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: will be listed by the various wiki members who make proposal pages -- and link them.
2011-01-31 16:57:51 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: ok
2011-01-31 16:58:11 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: and do we have any topics for consideration ... should I set up a meeting for Monday?
2011-01-31 16:58:19 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: so we don't lose any time?
2011-01-31 16:58:37 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: looks like most of our work will be decided in brief voting sessions
2011-01-31 16:58:41 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: called developers meetings
2011-01-31 16:58:53 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: with discussions on the wiki page discussion tab
2011-01-31 16:58:55 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: for that topic
2011-01-31 16:59:11 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: Oh- one thng!
2011-01-31 16:59:16 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: tom --- shall we take your GOALS for discussion this coming week?
2011-01-31 16:59:27 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: or????
2011-01-31 16:59:38 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: it is nearly 5pm Pacific time.
2011-01-31 16:59:50 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: I can quickly add it to the agenda page.....
2011-01-31 16:59:55 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: Since we now know the approx size of a recorded meeting I can look for a real home for them :)
2011-01-31 16:59:57 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: I have 500 PT meeting online.
2011-01-31 17:00:02 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: or do you wish a more studied approach.
2011-01-31 17:00:04 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: kk
2011-01-31 17:00:10 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: looks like we need to adjourn....
2011-01-31 17:00:11 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: tom -
2011-01-31 17:00:15 [Message] louiskessler -> Organizers Meeting: I can make a Feb 7 or Feb 21 meeting, but not Feb 14.
2011-01-31 17:00:15 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: can you hear me?
2011-01-31 17:00:17 [Message] GeneJ -> Organizers Meeting: So have to run. TYTY all. Hope you feel better, Myrt.
2011-01-31 17:00:20 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: (I mean see this)
2011-01-31 17:00:21 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: thanks
2011-01-31 17:00:24 [Disconnect] GeneJ
2011-01-31 17:00:49 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: Tom?
2011-01-31 17:00:51 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 17:00:51 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: .
2011-01-31 17:00:55 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: louis has to go as well.
2011-01-31 17:00:57 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: Ooohhhh
2011-01-31 17:01:01 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: I guess this wraps it up.
2011-01-31 17:01:02 [Message] ttwetmore -> Organizers Meeting: here
2011-01-31 17:01:04 [Message] louiskessler -> Organizers Meeting: I work every second Monday (except when holidays mess them us), so I can make some Developer meetings.
2011-01-31 17:01:06 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: message I see in Skype...
2011-01-31 17:01:13 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: kewl.
2011-01-31 17:01:14 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: The call host is using an old version of Skype.
2011-01-31 17:01:23 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: Might be part of the problem.
2011-01-31 17:01:33 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: i just downloaded the Skype TODAY and installed it on this Windows 7.
2011-01-31 17:01:38 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: so how oculd it be the old version?
2011-01-31 17:01:56 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: I downloaed it less than an hur ago!
2011-01-31 17:02:02 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: I don't know. Just relaying what it reads there.
2011-01-31 17:02:12 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: OK, I won't kill the messenger.
2011-01-31 17:02:17 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: interesting, but weird.
2011-01-31 17:02:19 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: ok
2011-01-31 17:02:24 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: Ah, that is for one of the retries involving some participants.
2011-01-31 17:02:29 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: Some ppl have old version.
2011-01-31 17:02:50 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: so if SOME people have the old version, it makes it a bad connection for everyone?
2011-01-31 17:02:54 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: that is terrible.
2011-01-31 17:03:09 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: hmmmm
2011-01-31 17:03:13 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: Everyon do Help | Check for Update...
2011-01-31 17:03:17 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: well, I'll contact the OpenGen folks.
2011-01-31 17:03:23 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: right.
2011-01-31 17:03:45 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: "You already have the latest version of Skype."
2011-01-31 17:04:08 [Message] louiskessler -> Organizers Meeting: I got that message as well (host using old version) on Skype.
2011-01-31 17:04:15 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: ok... I guess this wraps it up for today.
2011-01-31 17:04:15 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: thanks for experimenting
2011-01-31 17:04:17 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: as Tamura says --- it WAS successful... just not the outcome we desired.
2011-01-31 17:04:24 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: Could try with updated Skype later. Just to make sure.
2011-01-31 17:04:25 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: I was the host.
2011-01-31 17:04:35 [Message] louiskessler -> Organizers Meeting: Do you have the latest version?
2011-01-31 17:04:39 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: yes
2011-01-31 17:04:42 [Message] ttwetmore -> Organizers Meeting: getting latest now
2011-01-31 17:04:55 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: I did as Tamura asked -- checked for update, and it says it is the latest.
2011-01-31 17:05:37 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: That message did involve Tom...
2011-01-31 17:05:50 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: oic
2011-01-31 17:05:52 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: kk
2011-01-31 17:05:52 [Message] louiskessler -> Organizers Meeting: I've got to go now, but someone should check that Skype message on the Skype site or though Google. Maybe its something else and there is a solution.
2011-01-31 17:05:54 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: just let me know where to send the money ;)
2011-01-31 17:06:01 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: ok
2011-01-31 17:06:04 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: meeting adjourned!
2011-01-31 17:06:05 [Message] Now_Recording -> Organizers Meeting: Says I have the latest update.
2011-01-31 17:06:05 [Message] ttwetmore -> Organizers Meeting: now running latest skpte
2011-01-31 17:06:11 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: good
2011-01-31 17:06:15 [Message] louiskessler -> Organizers Meeting: Bye.
2011-01-31 17:06:17 [Message] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting: niters everyone!
2011-01-31 17:06:19 [Message] TamuraJones -> Organizers Meeting: Bye
2011-01-31 17:06:19 [Message] ttwetmore -> Organizers Meeting: bye
2011-01-31 17:06:20 [Logout] louiskessler
2011-01-31 17:06:28 [Disconnect] Now_Recording
2011-01-31 17:06:29 [Disconnect] dearmyrtle
2011-01-31 17:06:34 [Disconnect] ttwetmore
2011-01-31 17:06:35 [Disconnect] TamuraJones


Easier to read version:


2011-01-31 14:41:55 [Login] dearmyrtle
2011-01-31 14:41:55 [IP] dearmyrtle: 66.133.97.196
2011-01-31 14:41:56 [Join Room] dearmyrtle -> Organizers Meeting
2011-01-31 14:45:10 [Disconnect] dearmyrtle
dearmyrtle -> Hello everyone!
dearmyrtle -> looks like it's about that time.
dearmyrtle -> Here's what Tamura and I have been doing this past little while....
GeneJ -> Hi Myrt. Sorry to hear you aren't feeling well.
dearmyrtle -> 1. Added ourselves to our Skype Contacts....
Andy_Hatchett -> Yep.. Feeling better?
dearmyrtle -> 2. Worked with Google Wave...
dearmyrtle -> and we're ready to do a test of the SKYPE I don't have Andy's skype name...
dearmyrtle -> can you give it to me, then I will add you to my contacts.
dearmyrtle -> .
dearmyrtle -> .
Andy_Hatchett -> I don't Have a Skype name that I know of!
dearmyrtle -> hello Tom...
Andy_Hatchett -> Just use agh3rd :)
ttwetmore -> hi
dearmyrtle -> we're going to go over to SKYPE and test out that interface for a voice chat that can handle about 200+ attendees at no cost.
dearmyrtle -> tom do you have a skype account?
dearmyrtle -> My name there is DearMYRTLE
ttwetmore -> I may; I'll have to go through some stuff to remember
dearmyrtle -> agh3rd is not a skype name
dearmyrtle -> sorry Andy
dearmyrtle -> Tamura and I have been experimenting, and I find Google Wave like that program you showed me GeneJ... where we could edit in real time.
dearmyrtle -> and see what the other one was typing.
dearmyrtle -> and still follow it over time.
ttwetmore -> looks like i do
GeneJ -> kk
Andy_Hatchett -> ok- just assign me one :) I don't even know how Skype works :)
dearmyrtle -> GeneJ what was that program.
dearmyrtle -> you have to download skype and register Andy.
dearmyrtle -> .
dearmyrtle -> .
dearmyrtle -> skype is free voice for multiple individuals
GeneJ -> Andy a busy boy!!
dearmyrtle -> I see you already have your other computer working.
dearmyrtle -> and then video for one-to-one.
dearmyrtle -> We actually started on time.
TamuraJones -> There is an Andy Hatchett in Skype. Evil twin?
dearmyrtle -> the purpose of this organizers meeting is to attempt to use SKPE
dearmyrtle -> SKYPE
Andy_Hatchett -> Yes- unfortunately at the earlier meeting the video recorded great but no audio for some reason :(
dearmyrtle -> and then Google Wave to see if that free space would be useful for our purposes.
GeneJ -> lol
dearmyrtle -> good... I got a little teary-eyed there.
dearmyrtle -> andy are you in th eUK?
dearmyrtle -> .
dearmyrtle -> .
dearmyrtle -> or someone with the exact same name out of 789 million people on Skype.
dearmyrtle -> ok so Tom, did you find your skype account name?
dearmyrtle -> .
dearmyrtle -> .
dearmyrtle -> I do like the idea of getting more done during our developers meetings -- voting on what is discussed and announced as voting for the next monday.
GeneJ -> agh3rd still not showing up when I search skype.
ttwetmore -> ttwetmore
Andy_Hatchett -> Am I supposed to do something- call a number or something?
dearmyrtle -> I've scheduled a developers meeting for Monday the 7th since the 14this Valentine's day.
dearmyrtle -> OK....
dearmyrtle -> www.skype.com
dearmyrtle -> then download the program for your platform
GeneJ -> I found you, Tom; Tamura found me.
dearmyrtle -> then follow the screen prompts during the install to sigh up.
dearmyrtle -> sigh=sign up.
dearmyrtle -> sorry...
GeneJ -> <<is Marissab on Skype
dearmyrtle -> tom I just sent you a request to add me to your contact list.
GeneJ -> I am marissab on skype
dearmyrtle -> And once we get andy there,
ttwetmore -> (I have never used Skype, but it looks like I've just added three contacts)
dearmyrtle -> Hello Louis -- we're going to experiment on Skype.
dearmyrtle -> (WELCOME home from work!)
dearmyrtle -> ;)
louiskessler -> I've never used Skype either. I'll have to ask my daughter how to use it. :-)
louiskessler -> Are you using it now for this meeting?
dearmyrtle -> I ahve Tamura, GeneJ, Russ and Tom in a group in my contact group
dearmyrtle -> yes louis -- do you have skype...
dearmyrtle -> our agenda calls for experimenting with skype for larger than 16 attendees ....
dearmyrtle -> and to use the Wiki as a place to write.
louiskessler -> No. I don't have it yet. I can go to install it now.
Now_Recording -> ok- Firefox crashed :(
dearmyrtle -> oh dear.
dearmyrtle -> that was my problem with Second Life last night. Some days are just like that.
dearmyrtle -> our goal is to find a cheaper alternative (free)
dearmyrtle -> rather than up my attendance to 100 max for another 50 bucjs per month.
dearmyrtle -> I jsut spoke with tom via skype...
dearmyrtle -> so he has it working just fine.
dearmyrtle -> didn't take long, did it?
dearmyrtle -> Louis -- did you see our meeting notes from this morning's Developers Meeting?
dearmyrtle -> we decided to do all voting on the wiki, so it isn't dependent on anyone's private survey monkey account -- or their schedule.
dearmyrtle -> we also agreed on the internationalization goal.
dearmyrtle -> we also agreed to have Mon by 5pm posting of proposed goals... (or other items to vote on)
louiskessler -> I missed the voting item (thought you were going to do it at the developers meeting).
louiskessler -> I saw the internationaliation goal accepted.
dearmyrtle -> with a link to that proposal page BACK ON THE AGENDA item.
dearmyrtle -> good.
dearmyrtle -> so you are fairly up to speed.
dearmyrtle -> We are attempting to make it possible for things NOT to come to a grinding halt when I am traveling.
dearmyrtle -> I do so love to moderate --- slice through to the meat of things
dearmyrtle -> and such
dearmyrtle -> and see votes done in real time.
dearmyrtle -> unfortunately few can attend developers meetings
dearmyrtle -> any more skype names to add? Louis -- Andy?
dearmyrtle -> .
dearmyrtle -> .
dearmyrtle -> .
Now_Recording -> ok- just added agh3rd to skype.
dearmyrtle -> GeneJ what was that website/program you showed me a while back
dearmyrtle -> ?
dearmyrtle -> kk andy
dearmyrtle -> now Louis... do you have your skype name?
GeneJ -> I'll pull it up .. believe it's typewith.me
louiskessler -> ... still installing
dearmyrtle -> ok
dearmyrtle -> no problem
dearmyrtle -> Andy -- I just sent you a request to let me add you to my contact list on Skype.
GeneJ -> yes. http://typewith.me
dearmyrtle -> and the limit on Typewith.me is HOW many at a time?
dearmyrtle -> we are thinking Google Wave can handle a larger group viewing a page at once.
Now_Recording -> ok- see you and Tamura
dearmyrtle -> but I could be wrong.... wasn't it something like 25 total? GeneJ?
GeneJ -> I don't know. You mentioned 25 earlier today
dearmyrtle -> That numer sticks in my mind, yet their website isn't forthcoming ...let me look deeper.
Now_Recording -> Now what? do I click caL? VIDEO CALL??
dearmyrtle -> Andy -- wait
Now_Recording -> Ok- i'm god at that :) har!
dearmyrtle -> I am waiting for lewis.
Now_Recording -> err--- good!
dearmyrtle -> LOL
dearmyrtle -> Louis.
louiskessler -> Arrrgh. I hate it when both lkessler and louiskessler are taken. But my Skype name is: louis.kessler
dearmyrtle -> okie dokey
dearmyrtle -> ok, as soon as you can accept me as a contact, I'll add you to the list.
dearmyrtle -> so we can practice the audio portion....
dearmyrtle -> when all else fails come back to this room... OK everyone?
dearmyrtle -> ok, I see RUSS and LOUIS are not online with Skype... I don't think Russ is here anyway.
GeneJ -> 3rd party reports limit on Typewith.me is 15 persons.
dearmyrtle -> ok --- so that puts it out of the running....
dearmyrtle -> thanks, Genej you found that very quickly.
dearmyrtle -> I appreciate it.
GeneJ -> http://www.nabt.org/blog/2010/07/31/type-with-me/
dearmyrtle -> louis --- please accept my CONTACT invitation over on SKYPE... then await my call....
dearmyrtle -> I'll have all of you on the call at once... so no darth vader breathing. LOL.
dearmyrtle -> can you see where to accept my contact, Louis? (In Skype?)
dearmyrtle -> GeneJ I wonder why your little icon is red, and the rest of us are blue?
GeneJ -> donno
louiskessler -> Tom tried calling me. I heard him, but I saw my mike wasn't yet connected.
dearmyrtle -> kk
Now_Recording -> No video without webcam right?
dearmyrtle -> no video on group calls.
dearmyrtle -> to my knowledge --- its limited to one on one skype calls.
dearmyrtle -> are we ready?
ttwetmore -> yes, I tried to call Louis, heard nothing, so hung up.
Now_Recording -> I guess!
ttwetmore -> ready, i think
dearmyrtle -> ok need tamura and andy
dearmyrtle -> come on over to skype...
TamuraJones -> I am on Skype already...
dearmyrtle -> i haveinitiated a call..
Now_Recording -> I see Tamura and Myrtle- I'm there aren't I?
TamuraJones -> Skype is not responding... LOL ...let's retry
Now_Recording -> I see Tom with a little phone headset :)
TamuraJones -> I am there now
TamuraJones -> Skype "not responding again"...
Now_Recording -> Welll- there was something therte for 30 seconds anyway!
ttwetmore -> got dumped
Now_Recording -> Dumped by Skype- again.
GeneJ -> kk
Now_Recording -> ok= back in room.
dearmyrtle -> wow -- that was a bit disconcerting wasn't it?
GeneJ -> Yes.
dearmyrtle -> It makes my goToMeeting.com interface sound OK after all...
TamuraJones -> I filled in the Skype feedback form
GeneJ -> tyty Tamura
dearmyrtle -> good for you -- it isn't good for conference calls...
dearmyrtle -> there are telephone conference call capabilitites...
dearmyrtle -> with other services
louiskessler -> Do you think anyone at Skype will read the feedback form?
dearmyrtle -> I've participated in large voice chats
dearmyrtle -> involving placing a long distnace call.
TamuraJones -> It is multiple choice.... adds to their statistics.
dearmyrtle -> I don't know Louis --- today FamilySearch sent me a deluge of emails from my feedback about their website problems in my blog post Sunday. So GO FOGURE.
dearmyrtle -> FIGURE.
dearmyrtle -> so what shall we do?
dearmyrtle -> If we go forward with the GoToMeeting larger meeting on my account, I'd trust several of you with logging in in my place if I were not able to attend.
TamuraJones -> The experiment was a success. We have a definite result; Skype is not good enough.
dearmyrtle -> I just want this group to go forward with decision making even on days when I cannot attend.
dearmyrtle -> Good point&gt;
dearmyrtle -> thanks for participating in that tes.t
Now_Recording -> Like I said- I'll kick in $25/ mo if some other can pick up the rest and we go to the 100 person meeting toom level.'
dearmyrtle -> ok, Andy, I'd give you my Login info then...
dearmyrtle -> shall we consider that as an option?
dearmyrtle -> .
dearmyrtle -> .
Now_Recording -> err-- I'm not sure that I'm the "run-a meeting" type- if you know what I mean :)
dearmyrtle -> not enjoying moderating?
dearmyrtle -> you don't have to moderate -- just open the doors for people so to speak.
GeneJ -> Does anyone have a paypal merchant account?
dearmyrtle -> I don't.
dearmyrtle -> I could set up a Google Checkout.
dearmyrtle -> (I hate paypal.)
Now_Recording -> I'll send Myrt the money direct- I won't use PayPal at all.
dearmyrtle -> kk
dearmyrtle -> are we agreed to go forward with the larger room?
dearmyrtle -> I will up my membership then....
GeneJ -> The larger room makes sense to me.
dearmyrtle -> and andy do you agree to open the doors ???? Sounds like we need another impartial observer to moderate.
dearmyrtle -> (my college debate team stuff is kicking in here!)
dearmyrtle -> it is hard for me to moderate -- as I am so opinionated.
Now_Recording -> ok- I'll open the doors ;)
dearmyrtle -> LOL
dearmyrtle -> thakns, Andy.
louiskessler -> We're all opinionated.
dearmyrtle -> I'll send you wikispaces email with my contact info
dearmyrtle -> we need another 25$ us monthly... that is a lot of money.
GeneJ -> afk
Now_Recording -> LOL!! *You* are opinionated??? Have you ever read my Ancestry posts??? !!!!
dearmyrtle -> I think the pay pal or google cart to take up the slack might help.
dearmyrtle -> hehehehee.... I know! LOL.
dearmyrtle -> you should read Tamura's letter to Tim.
louiskessler -> To be honest, we shouldn't be putting in our own funds. We need a sponsor ... but still need to remain independent.
dearmyrtle -> yes, you should see Tamura's letter.
dearmyrtle -> to tim.
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dearmyrtle -> OK -- so should we ask OpenGen to host our meetings?
dearmyrtle -> Vote you ALL....
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dearmyrtle -> this is the organizers meeting... we don't need full bg wiki approval.
louiskessler -> Yes.
GeneJ -> I vote that "I can live with it" if BG takes OpenGen up on generous offer.
Now_Recording -> &lt;--- can live with anything... except Skype ;)
dearmyrtle -> good point.
GeneJ -> LOL
TamuraJones -> If you hadn't noticed yet, I never vote :-)
dearmyrtle -> you are opinionated AND non-voting -- wow, what a combination.
dearmyrtle -> I am NOW SEEING that we should ask OPENGEN if they are still willing to host our BG Developers meetings.
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ttwetmore -> can live with it unless it becomes clear we shouldn't
dearmyrtle -> BEGIN log again.
TamuraJones -> No need to vote, is there? After all, my arguments sway you all ;-)
GeneJ -> )
dearmyrtle -> This is the first time I have ever edited the log except to remove private comments betwene people (BTW I can see them all!)
dearmyrtle -> (in the log!)
dearmyrtle -> ok
dearmyrtle -> nuff said on that.
dearmyrtle -> then we can go forth with the various
Now_Recording -> Edit all you want- I've got the recording ;)
dearmyrtle -> Agenda items
TamuraJones -> LOL
louiskessler -> I have to leave in 5 minutes
dearmyrtle -> will be listed by the various wiki members who make proposal pages -- and link them.
dearmyrtle -> ok
dearmyrtle -> and do we have any topics for consideration ... should I set up a meeting for Monday?
dearmyrtle -> so we don't lose any time?
dearmyrtle -> looks like most of our work will be decided in brief voting sessions
dearmyrtle -> called developers meetings
dearmyrtle -> with discussions on the wiki page discussion tab
dearmyrtle -> for that topic
Now_Recording -> Oh- one thng!
dearmyrtle -> tom --- shall we take your GOALS for discussion this coming week?
dearmyrtle -> or????
dearmyrtle -> it is nearly 5pm Pacific time.
dearmyrtle -> I can quickly add it to the agenda page.....
Now_Recording -> Since we now know the approx size of a recorded meeting I can look for a real home for them :)
GeneJ -> I have 500 PT meeting online.
dearmyrtle -> or do you wish a more studied approach.
dearmyrtle -> kk
dearmyrtle -> looks like we need to adjourn....
dearmyrtle -> tom -
louiskessler -> I can make a Feb 7 or Feb 21 meeting, but not Feb 14.
dearmyrtle -> can you hear me?
GeneJ -> So have to run. TYTY all. Hope you feel better, Myrt.
dearmyrtle -> (I mean see this)
dearmyrtle -> thanks
dearmyrtle -> Tom?
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dearmyrtle -> louis has to go as well.
TamuraJones -> Ooohhhh
dearmyrtle -> I guess this wraps it up.
ttwetmore -> here
louiskessler -> I work every second Monday (except when holidays mess them us), so I can make some Developer meetings.
TamuraJones -> message I see in Skype...
dearmyrtle -> kewl.
TamuraJones -> The call host is using an old version of Skype.
TamuraJones -> Might be part of the problem.
dearmyrtle -> i just downloaded the Skype TODAY and installed it on this Windows 7.
dearmyrtle -> so how oculd it be the old version?
Now_Recording -> I downloaed it less than an hur ago!
TamuraJones -> I don't know. Just relaying what it reads there.
dearmyrtle -> OK, I won't kill the messenger.
dearmyrtle -> interesting, but weird.
dearmyrtle -> ok
TamuraJones -> Ah, that is for one of the retries involving some participants.
TamuraJones -> Some ppl have old version.
dearmyrtle -> so if SOME people have the old version, it makes it a bad connection for everyone?
dearmyrtle -> that is terrible.
dearmyrtle -> hmmmm
TamuraJones -> Everyon do Help | Check for Update...
dearmyrtle -> well, I'll contact the OpenGen folks.
dearmyrtle -> right.
dearmyrtle -> "You already have the latest version of Skype."
louiskessler -> I got that message as well (host using old version) on Skype.
dearmyrtle -> ok... I guess this wraps it up for today.
dearmyrtle -> thanks for experimenting
dearmyrtle -> as Tamura says --- it WAS successful... just not the outcome we desired.
TamuraJones -> Could try with updated Skype later. Just to make sure.
dearmyrtle -> I was the host.
louiskessler -> Do you have the latest version?
dearmyrtle -> yes
ttwetmore -> getting latest now
dearmyrtle -> I did as Tamura asked -- checked for update, and it says it is the latest.
TamuraJones -> That message did involve Tom...
dearmyrtle -> oic
dearmyrtle -> kk
louiskessler -> I've got to go now, but someone should check that Skype message on the Skype site or though Google. Maybe its something else and there is a solution.
Now_Recording -> just let me know where to send the money ;)
dearmyrtle -> ok
dearmyrtle -> meeting adjourned!
Now_Recording -> Says I have the latest update.
ttwetmore -> now running latest skpte
dearmyrtle -> good
louiskessler -> Bye.
dearmyrtle -> niters everyone!
TamuraJones -> Bye
ttwetmore -> bye
2011-01-31 17:06:20 [Logout] louiskessler
2011-01-31 17:06:28 [Disconnect] Now_Recording
2011-01-31 17:06:29 [Disconnect] dearmyrtle
2011-01-31 17:06:34 [Disconnect] ttwetmore
2011-01-31 17:06:35 [Disconnect] TamuraJones